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  • UTTAM KUMAR DE

    Hi Aravindan,

    Thank you for your quick response. I have raised SR .

    Regards

    Uttam

  • Aravindan Sankaramurthy

    If you have not done so already, please log a SR with Oracle Support.

    Thanks

  • Deepika Nathany

    Thanks Roy -- We didnt want to use regular buy process as --

    The customer though outsources all its manufacturing processes (and does not track any progress or update) -- it has quality check reported and tracks only the quality result. The quality checks are also done in ad hoc fashion. 

     

  • Deepika Nathany

    Thanks Venkat to your detailed explanation.

    Yes you are right -- Neither Contract Manufacturing nor Outside processing completely suits the business Requirement.

    I missed mentioning why We didn't want to use Procure to pay -- as I was focusing only on the two manufacturing processes.

    The customer though outsources all its manufacturing processes (and does not track any progress or update) -- it has quality check reported and tracks only the quality result. The quality checks are also done in ad hoc fashion. 

    My idea was to implement Outside processing -- and have quality checks reported. They are not using planning or order management -- hence cannot have any components planned. 

    They kind of want to have minimal maintenance on the manufacturing process and expect to use more of standard operations.

     

  • pandurang bugadikatti

    I fully agree with Venkat. this is not a CM flow.

    CM is fully integrated fully orchestrated by SCO.. 

    Thanks

    Pandurang

     

  • Venkata Ramana Malluri

    Hi Deepika,

    Contract Manufacturing solution should be used if the following criteria is met:

    - OEM is completely outsourcing the manufacturing of an assembly (end item) to a contract manufacturer

    - If OEM would like to supply one or more components to the contract manufacturer that are required to manufacture the assembly

    - If OEM would like to track the manufacturing process at the contract manufacturer's facility

    - If OEM would like to track the components stock supplied by them at the contract manufacturer's facility and also track the end assembly stock owned by them

    Outside Processing solution should be used if the following criteria is met:

    - If the OEM is outsourcing only a part of manufacturing process (one or more operations of the work order and NOT all operations) to a Manufacturing Partner

    - If the OEM is NOT supplying any components to the Manufacturing Partner. Currently this solution does not support component supply by OEM. 

     

    Now, with regard to your customer use case, what I am understanding is, they are completely outsourcing the manufacturing of the assembly to a third party (contract manufacturer). They do not supply any components to the contract manufacturer. And they do not want to even track the manufacturing process. In this case, implementing contract manufacturing solution would be a overhead. Outside Processing is NOT the right fitment for this use case. They can simply use a regular Procure to Pay flow and  buy the assembly from the supplier (contract manufacturer).It can be a Back-to-Back Buy flow or a Plan to Produce Buy flow.

    Hope this helps. 

    Thanks,

    Venkat

  • Roy Amozeg

    Hi,

    I would even consider this scenario as regular 'buy' items.

    The considerations should be around costing, execution and planning.

    From costing perspective, it might be required to capture manufacturing cost which might disqualify the 'buy' scenario

    From materials handling perspective both outside processing and contract mfg scenarios allow to model all material ownership situations (owned by customer and supplied to supplier, owned by supplier/cm). 'Buy' item scenario will not allow to control the materials.

    The main use of contract manufacturing is if you need to have visibility into the manufacturing process steps (i.e. at which operation the material is, start and end dates of operations)

    Contract manufacturing also allows to use materials at different stages of production (which is useful if the production process is long)

    From planning perspective, if the customer (your client) need to plan and procure materials that the CM will use (regardless if they are sipped directly to the CM or supplied from your customer stock), then 'buy' item is also off the table but OSP and CM are still valid.

    I hope this helps

    Roy

  • Sivakumar Jayaraman

    Sorry couldn't attach video. Here is the link.

    https://youtu.be/tF3D5nKqXBI

  • Vijay Krishnamoorthy

    Hi Siva - I couldn't find any attachment or video regarding the OTBI to external scheduling system.  Can you please share the same?

  • Sivakumar Jayaraman

    Like Mathias mentioned, you could use OTBI, BI publisher or BICC to extract data to send this to an external production scheduling or the Oracle on prem Production Scheduling system. 

    The attached video shows an example of extracting data using OTBI to send to an external scheduling system.

  • Matthias Bolsinger

    Look for Production Scheduling here in the Oracle® E-Business Suite Online Documentation Library Release 12.2:

    https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E26401_01/nav/portal_booklist.htm

  • Sudharsan Thoppae

    Really appreciate for your feedback. Is 'AU Production Scheduling' a Oracle product ? Can you please share some link so that I can explore more about it ?

    Thanks

  • Matthias Bolsinger

    They can consider integrating to AU Production Scheduling, though they would need to build that integration themselves. In that case, they could consider extracting relevant data via BI Publisher, transforming that into a valid PS .xml model file, and then again use FBDI templates to update work orders in Fusion MFG with the schedule results.

  • Sudharsan Thoppae

    Thanks for the update. Do you have any suggestions for the customer who is moving to cloud, but still they need scheduling for work orders ? 

  • Matthias Bolsinger

    Development is working on delivering PS Cloud in the 2021 calendar year time frame.